1. Can you describe the local scene where you grew up, what bands and venues were important to you and can you share some of your greatest memories about these bands/places ?
Paweł: My beginnings with music – including metal – go back to the late ’80s. As you know, that was a time when records arrived in Poland with a delay, and everything that reached us felt exciting and inspiring. From the age of 6, I would bang with wooden slats found in my father’s workshop on anything I could, especially on an empty tar barrel. In 1991, at the age of 14, I bought my first drum kit and immediately joined my brother’s and neighborhood friends’ band, which later transformed into Crusade.
It was an exciting time: we spent crazy hours in our family house rehearsal room, playing practically every day for at least 3–4 hours, honing skills and compositions. Soon the first concerts began, and in 1993 they culminated in our first 6-song demo Voyager, recorded in Gdynia’s Warrior Studio – the same place where Behemoth took their first steps. That release was a mix of everything that fascinated and inspired us in metal back then.
In 1994–95 we had material ready for a debut album, leaning toward technical, jazz-infused metal. For various reasons, it was never recorded, and the band dissolved. I kept playing in different line-ups and styles, and in 1996 I met Michał. Together with my brother and Michał, we played for several years as Lede, though we never released recordings from that period. Later came Nightcome, Poza Ciszą, Seledyn, and Nook. I think it’s one of many similar stories of bands and musicians of that time – and still today – a classic modus operandi of musicians.
The regional scene back then was strong. Bands existed in every small town, and there was positive rivalry everywhere. It was the time of zines, cassette trading, and flyers. Equipment was poor, concerts poorly amplified, but enthusiasm and passion always prevailed. Without a doubt, the global success of Vader – who came from our north-eastern region of Poland – had a big influence on that passion. They proved, and still prove today, that everything is possible if you want it, pursue it consistently, and work hard.
In the mid-2000s, I focused on professional and family ambitions outside music, though music remained a constant part of my life. Michał and I went separate ways for a while. I concentrated on Nook, with whom I was active for the next 10 years, recording one album The Stand in 2010. Interestingly, it was produced in the same studio by Ryszard Szmidt, the man who recorded Vader’s early demos that got them their first global contract and secured their place in metal history. Nook’s second album was recorded in 2018 but only released this year. Around 2017, my path crossed with Michał’s again, and since then we’ve been working together nonstop in Seledyn and, naturally… in CZART
Michał: My music journey began in 1995 when I founded MUCUS with Darek. We recorded three demo tapes, the first one – But Still Alive… – received very positive reviews in zines and in Poland’s then-popular Thrash’em All magazine. Back then Darek played guitar, I did growl vocals, wrote lyrics, and programmed drums and bass using Fast Tracker. Guitar and vocals were recorded on a regular cassette deck, then sampled with a Sound Blaster card. All of this took place in my 3rd-floor apartment in the Północ housing estate in Suwałki.
At that time, the best death metal band in Suwałki was Paweł’s Crusade, who played technical death metal, did concerts, and recorded in a “professional” studio. Suwałki is a small town in north-eastern Poland, so there weren’t many bands, but many people played music. The ’90s were very inspiring. We watched MTV Headbanger’s Ball, and when I saw Vader’s Dark Age video there, hope appeared that music dreams could come true.
2. How did you come up with the band name Czart do you describe your musical style ? And can you tell us briefly the history of your band’s creation ?
Michał: I met Paweł in 1996, and we quickly started playing music together with a few breaks. After our death metal beginnings, we didn’t play metal for many years, leaning more toward post-rock. First as Lede, and then in 2001 we formed Seledyn together with Monika (vocals, Poza Ciszą), where we also create to this day. Later, our paths diverged for a while – Monika and I released the mini-album Zimy in 2008 as Seledyn, while Paweł played in Nook.
We are not professional musicians – we always combined music with day jobs. In 2017 we started playing together again as Seledyn and still do today.
Last year, I came across Julian Tuwim’s 1924 work Czary i czarty polskie oraz Wypisy czarnoksięskie (“Polish Spells and Devils, with Occult Excerpts”). That’s where the idea for a project named CZART came from. In 2023 I began using AI tools, and with their rapid development, we suddenly had the ability to create our own music videos. AI, from the beginning, sparked controversy as an unknown medium condemned by many. It reminded us of how unexplained phenomena used to be treated in the past.
In his book, Tuwim described how devils, though formless, could create bodies from air and earthly vapors and speak in an “artificial language.” This poetic idea inspired us to use modern AI tools in the creative process of both music and videos. Hence the band’s name. In Slavic beliefs, a czart is a demon of evil; in Christian beliefs, a devil. The unknown and unreal suddenly became visible and audible – and that’s how our vision was born. Our style is broadly defined metal.
3. Why did you want to play this genre ? Who or what inspires you to write songs. What bands have inspired you the most ?
The concept of Czart is rooted in medieval Polish demonology. It explores horror as a holistic phenomenon, developed both in music and imagery. The narrative draws from ancient beliefs that attributed misfortunes not to people, but to demonic forces – a way to rationalize human wrongdoings.
Death metal has always been one of our favorite genres. The most influential bands for us are Morbid Angel, Vader, Immolation, Death, Meshuggah, Cynic, Pestilence, Entombed, and Unleashed. From outside metal: Dead Can Dance, Swans, Autechre, and John Coltrane. We returned to metal with the same enthusiasm as when we were teenagers in the ’90s. You never outgrow that.
4. Can you tell us something about your upcoming new album “Czarty polskie” and your new video single “Noc zatracenia” ? Do you also have a story behind your album Title ?
Our debut album Czarty polskie will be released in October this year by the legendary Italian label Code666/Aural Music. It will feature 16 songs, each with its own wild music video. The album title was inspired by Tuwim’s work and also by our desire to highlight our Polish roots and identity.
At the same time, considering Poland’s turbulent history – including the loss of independence for 123 years due to partitions – the title also alludes to the “human demons” of conflict. Polish lands were divided between Russia, Prussia, and Austria in 1772, 1793, and 1795, and Poland only regained independence in 1918. Many misfortunes stemmed from Poles fighting each other, so the title reflects those inner demons too, when people can’t cooperate but only quarrel.
5. Where are you most proud of what you have achieved with the band So far ?
We are most proud of the incredibly positive reception our work has received from people all over the world. There’s been a strong emotional interaction, especially from listeners of our generation. That is our biggest success. Of course, we were also thrilled when Emiliano from Code666/Aural Music reached out, offering collaboration and a record deal.
6. What is a Czart Show like ? What can somebody expect when they go to one of your concerts ? And which places to play were important to you and why ?
We haven’t yet played a concert as Czart. There are only two of us so far, and we still need to complete the line-up to perform live – definitely with simultaneous projection of our videos. We very much hope to play concerts in the future.
7. What was your Weirdest show you’ve ever played and why ? feel free to mention more than one, and don’t hold back on the details ?
Paweł: There were quite a few, but those are experiences from Crusade and later. The ’90s were a strange time in Polish metal gig culture – lots of aggression between different metal “clans,” obligatory T-shirt line-up recitations (if you failed, your shirt could be confiscated, often ending with a punch in the face).
I remember once arriving in a town for a gig, looking for the venue. Our guitarist “Helmut” (greetings!) approached a group of local metalheads to ask where it was, but before he could open his mouth, he got punched straight in the face. Of course, apologies followed, but it was a very weird experience.
Another one was a big blues festival in Lithuania in the early 2000s. To step onto the big professional stage, you had to drink a glass of 70% moonshine and chase it with raw meat (a local delicacy) offered by the crew. Not sure if it was meant for stage fright or just for fun. But we had a great time. The whole event was even broadcast on Lithuanian national TV.
From:
https://metalsinterviewsworldwide.wordpress.com/2025/09/04/interview-czart/