CocoRosie - ARTE Concert 2025 - Part 2
Sierra Casady: There’s a track on our new record, “Least I Have You.” That was kind of a transition from the two records.
Bianca Casady: We also encountered a few musicians when we were recording – they were recording next door. Texas based, really incredible musicians. They played a bit on the last record and it inspired us. I feel like we continued to go a little bit deeper into funk on this record, but it started with Put the Shine On. “Nothing But Garbage,” “Pushing Daisies” – specifically in the bass and the drums, we’re just finding our way into funk, and you know, it took twenty years for us to get to that point.
I know you've described the presence of the Bloody Sisters (a character duo you infuse into some of your songs) on some of your previous records. Do you feel like the Bloody Sisters are present on Little Death Wishes at all?
Bianca: We’re like the Junkie Sisters [on Little Death Wishes].
Sierra: The Junkie Twins. It’s a little different. The answer is yes – I think that that style of singing you can hear a little bit in the first track, [“Wait for Me”], but some of the goth has lifted, you know? And maybe in this record we reveal some emotional transformation of those characters. That’s there still, just in a different way.
So much of Little Death Wishes feels centered around the idea of a transformation. You describe the album as “an effort to turn pain into knowledge, sisterhood into polemic, trash into treasure, and recalcifying kitsch and cliché into fresh truths.” How did you land on this theme and why do you feel like it's poignant to CocoRosie now?
Sierra: I don’t want to dumb it down, but these things might have first spawned from our emotional state. We’re transforming our shit into better feelings, and talking about the bad things that happened to us, and just talking shit, talking trash, being nasty and with that–or in that process – maybe our hopes can grow. And so that might have been in our emotional state, and so I think maybe we fell into telling these stories.
You've described your work before as an observation of the world through a child's point of view. How do you balance that childlike perspective with the complex themes you integrate into your music?
Bianca: We use the child’s perspective more as a sort of license to be honest, to be brutal, and to be confused – it’s like a mirror. And so that perspective is just sort of an aspect of the way that we tell stories. I don’t feel like it’s a huge part of the storytelling of this record. It’s a little bit closer to our age, [Little Death Wishes]. We’re really enjoying our age in this record, and it’s kind of representing divorcees and mothers. Maybe you start having people pass away in your family and life gets deeper and deeper as you get older. But still, we feel really young, and the music itself is pretty young–but I think the themes are just getting to have more depth.
How would you say your creative process has transformed since the band’s inception, as sisters and as CocoRosie?
Sierra: In just looking at the art, we have played in incredible studios with incredible musicians. We were so excited about the adventure, being in beautiful places and beautiful studios. And in this last record, it was just Bianca and I in the bedroom, and it was better than ever. So it’s hard to say – I feel like it was this way in the beginning, too, where we were having a lot of fun because no one was watching. And we started to do that again [on this record], and we were remembering that.
You began making music together in a bathroom in Paris. How do you feel like making music in a quiet, simplistic space like a bedroom or bathroom affects your work?
Sierra: I think it’s a lot more focused when we’re in a smaller, less professional space. We get very maximalist and excited in big studios with a lot of gear. But, then we have all this material that we still have to boil down. It’s kind of rare that we just nail the song in a big studio. But “Pushing Daisies,” “Nothing But Garbage,” and our single, “Witch Hunt,” were practically all done on the same children’s keyboard, including bass lines and everything. Just getting a system down that’s so straightforward.
I feel like we’re not trying to prove anything with music; it’s just to get ourselves inspired. Sometimes we do a lot of songs until we get to that point, and we did the song “Nothing But Garbage” and we knew we found something different there. It became kind of the center of the record once we hit that point, but we were already a good year and a half into the process.
You mention playing on children's keyboards. How does that translate into your music?
Sierra: Well, we’re still currently in that phase of simplicity, but we’re starting to work with other musicians and make arrangements for string players and translate that kind of naïve, simple approach into something much more grand. We’re in the beginning stages of that transition. So often what we do with records is, we kind of collage them together, and then it’s a whole new process. But I think more and more, [CocoRosie] needs less in order to create songs.
A few reviewers have cited Put the Shine On as CocoRosie’s “return to maximalism.” How do you feel like Little Death Wishes answers to that?
Bianca: I don’t think Little Death Wishes is totally maximalist – it’s bombastic. Especially in the drums, it’s like…woah. It’s bold. It’s still pared down, and I think it’s boiled down to what’s more essential.
One part on the album that I really love is “Luckless.” Can you talk about that piece, and how that came to be?
Sierra: That was pretty spontaneous. We were in a studio, so it wasn’t one of those bedroom moments.
Bianca: But I don’t think that’s so relevant. That was a special moment. It was not random and improvised–not at all. It was something Bianca requested of me. Sometimes we play games like would you rather, or trade roles, or give each other different tasks in order to see what happens creatively. We were in that space, and I had played some really old-timey music on an old Mellotron, and that reminded [Bianca] of something, so she asked me to read this poem.
So it was like a challenge. But the next part of the story is that “Luckless” was archived and in some dusty folders. And our new label asked if they could have permission to go through those folders and they were like, we want this. I was like, oh, some dusty old poem? [They also chose] a couple songs that we didn’t think would make it onto the record, so it was kind of sweet.
From: https://atwoodmagazine.com/crldw-cocorosie-little-death-wishes-album-interview-music-feature/

















































